In this episode Debbie shares an interview she completed for the New Books Network with Dr. Kelly McGonigal. Dr. McGonigal discusses her book The Willpower Instinct: How Self-Control Works, Why It Matters, and What You Can Do to Get More of It. An expert on the science and practice of behavior change, Dr. McGonigal offers listeners some helpful ideas from her book, such as types of willpower, the role of awareness, “moral licensing,” and social influences on behavior patterns.