Have your friends or loved ones suggested for you to chill out or relax? If our first podcast episode with Hope Arnold, about excessive self-control, leaves you wondering how to help with this biologically-based personality trait, then keep listening!  Join Debbie for another engaging discussion with Hope Arnold, senior clinician, and trainer in Radically Open Dialectical Behavioral Therapy (RO DBT), for evidence-based strategies on how to work with “over-controlling” biology in the service of loosening up a bit, more fulfilling relationships, and gaining the capacity to just chill!